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BillH

Without proof (pictures, etc.), it's all still just speculation. The good that may come out of it, though, is that it may serve as more of a warning to those that wish to do us and/or our allies harm. Might make them think twice before acting.

RALPH SWALM

RECENT COMMENTS ON HOW THE SPOOKS MAY HAVE USED UFOS AS DISINFORMATION IN THE 50S TO CONCEAL OR OBFUSCATE THEIR OWN FLYING SECRETS THAT THEY COULDN'T REVEAL TO THE PUBLIC ARE INTRESTING! WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WAS? MAYBEE IT WAS BALLONS WITH COVERT PHOTO TASKS OVER RUSSIA? DID YOU EVER. BILL SWEETMAN,NOTICE EXPERIMENTS IN THE 50S OUT OF CORNELL UNIVERSITY, TO TRACK THE VECTORS OF WHEAT RUST CARRIED BY CONTAMINATED TURKEY FEATHERS,SPREAD BY AIRCRAFT THRU CENTRAL NY. THE LOCAL FARMERS WERE NEITHER NOTIFIED OR PAID FOR LOSSES! NOW--WHAT WOULD THAT BE FOR??? WOULD WE POP A BAG OF WHEAT RUST IN TO A MULTI-WARHEADED WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION?--SEEMS KINDA INAPROPRIATE!!MAYBEE-JUST MAYBEE--THOSE BALOONS WE OBSCURED WITH DISINFORMATION IN THE 50S COULD-HAVE COPIED JAP FUSO FIRE BOMB BALOONS,OF WW2, BUT MUCH MORE OBSCURELY-DROPPING A FEW FEATHERS HERE AND THERE---REMEMBER HOW SMUGGLY WE WOULD ANNOUNCE, EVERY YEAR:THEM COMMIES CANT GROW WHEAT WORTH A DAMN!! LITTLE PRICKS LIKE THAT-DEFTLY ADMINISTERED- COULD HELP COVERTLY DESTROY RUSSIAS ECONOMY!! NEET,HUH BILL? RALPH

RALPH SWALM

NOV 19, 1965-THE NIGHT OF THE BLACKOUT OF THE NORTHEAST:A UFO 100FT DIA/50FT ABOVE GROUND-WAS SEEN NEXT TO CARRIER CIRCLE, IN SYRACUSE NY. THIS WAS ABOUT 2.5 MILES FROM THE LOCAL SAGE AIR DEFENSE COMPUTER, AND ALSO NEXT DOOR,A COMMAND CENTER FOR THE INTEGRATED SYSTEMS. ANOTHER(POSSIBLY)UFO WAS OBSERVED BY SOLID WITNESSES--OVER HANCOCK FIELDS RUNWAY-WHICH MIGHT PUT THE UFO ABOUT1/4 MILE FROM THE SAGE COMPUTER, AND CLOSER TO THE CONTROLL TOWER. AFTER THIS AND OTHER ODD HAPPENINGS AROUND THE STATE-THE POWER GRID DIED FOR, I THINK-ABOUT 10 HOURS. APARENTLY NO ONE ASKED THE SAGE FELLAS IF THEY NOTICED ANYTHING ODD THAT EVENING, BEING AS THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR DEFENSE AGAINST ANY FLYING THREATS. MIGHT HAVE ASKED THE CONTROLL TOWER TOO! ONE WONDERS IF THE SAGE GUYS NOTICED THE AUXILIARY GENERATORS COMEING ON, OR IF THEIR SHIFT ENDED AND THEY LEFT AND WONDERED WHERE THE STREETLIGHTS ALL WENT ON THEIR WAY HOME???

Brian Pyle

No fck this sht...it wouldnt be a fcking security risk if our sneaky, decieving, sheisty fcking govnmt didnt hide everything from us. so no everyone should speculate as much as they want. fck the fcking government!!! stop hiding sht from us!

kyler martin

my name is kyler i really want to know the truth and what lies in area51 i know alot i know what the test site is for in nevada near area51 base please find me!!

AL

it took 40 years for the black bird to come out. if it was top secret uncle sam would pull it, and find out who and how they got info we must stand up for secret policy in our gov if we plan to stay free.think about it It would be the hell for your opossed N.F.L.leag team to get youre plays what is so hard to get?lets protect our brothers in arms one wronge word.= one or more life. is it worth it? would you do it if it was youre son! dont with mine! loose lips sinks ships men die Honor youre country or leave it!

Tom M

My two cents is that reporting of this nature is not a breach of national security. First of all, as Bill Sweetman points out (despite doubtless having the luxury of "reliable sources"), it is an educated guess. The real concern for the government and the black world would be foreign intelligence agents/spies infiltrating such a programme. Spies, by nature of their jobs, often have/gain inside knowledge. They are a). Far more likely to gain access to secrets than aviation journalists, plane spotters etc, and b). More likely to cause major problems if they succeed.

Secondly, in a free country reporting of this nature is perfectly accepable. People have some right to know where their tax dollars are going (balanced against the importance of national security) but this whole issue by virtue of its secrecy is unavoidably interesting, like the proverbial red rag to the journalists bull (so to speak!) and with an intrigued market of readers with an insatiable appetite for such information. You don't even have to be an aviation enthusiast to be fascinated by this stuff!

Thirdly, the chances are that such "educated guesses" merely scratch the surface, at best. Like all forms of journalism in a free society, reporting such as this fosters accountability, and is an important component of democracy - once again, balanced against the need for uncompromised national security. But it probably serves another purpose too: it keeps those within the black world on their toes, lets them know what is in the public domain, where public knowledge is at this point, and where they need to increase security.

Taking the Aurora programme, they might even have a chuckle when they look at what is available online and compare it to what is really lurking behind the hangar doors at Groom, Edwards or Beale, for example. In the 25 years or so since it came to light, nothing much has come out and most of that was a long time ago, so if it does exist, they've done a good job of covering it up!

Aurora is likely one among many black projects, but is undeniably the one that has captured the public imagination. My personal belief is that it does/did exist in some form, irrespective of what its name is/was. Hypersonic aircraft programmes are known to have existed before and after rumours of Aurora surfaced (e.g. FALCON, BLACKSWIFT etc). It is probably one in a sequence of hypersonic technology demonstrators that fell into the "spaceplane" category (single stage to orbit?), possibly similar to the X-30 NASP by officially never reached the full scale stage. And that's possibly why it's still top secret. Evidence suggests spaceplane evolution is far from over, and there will doubtless have been a lot of money spent that perhaps didn't yield anything definitive along the way, but brought us to where we are now - most likely the R&D stage, perhaps with a few successes and many failures en route. Either way, absolutely fascinating stuff!!

Generic Viagra

It is little what we know about the government and their real technology, what they tell us it is pure misleading and pure lies.

Joe

I worked on the SR-71 and the F117 fighters before they were public. I use to work for skunk works in CA. I thought the Aroura was being developed to replace the old space shuttle. This way they don't need booster rockets to take off. It is capable of both air and space flight. There's another craft that can fly mach 35. It can fly both into space and in the atmosphere. TR-3b I think is it's name. It is nuclear and ramjet. This aircraft supplies our space station, which is, past the moon every other week. It is manned by 4 people. I think we have 5 at area 51 and 15 more in Utah (new area 51). The new shuttle is going to be revealed in 2011. Does anyone know the date and what it looks like? I also worked for McDonnell Douglas, G.E. and Raytheon in white sands NM.

Rick Stone

Speculation for speculation's sake is not a risk to National Security when the speculators apply their talents to other the advanced aviation programs of other countries as well. If they fail to do this then they leave themselves wide open to such charges.

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